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Jason Phillips Jake Silva interview on Ravens culture and Ozzie Newsom

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Key takeaways

  • Phillips called the Baltimore Ravens his favorite NFL team to play for because its standards extended across the organization.
  • Phillips said Ozzie Newsome drafted him despite a knee injury and valued his willingness to take on special-teams work.
  • Phillips believes young NFL players need some live tackling practice to prepare for game speed and contact.
  • Phillips said broader recruiting competition and booster influence make consistent success harder for the University of Texas.
  • Phillips credited Luke Kuechly with raising defensive buy-in in Carolina and picked Cleveland over Pittsburgh because of its young defense.

In the Jason Phillips Jake Silva interview, the former linebacker called the Baltimore Ravens his favorite NFL team to play for and explained why Ozzie Newsome drafted him despite a knee injury. Phillips also told Silva why young players need live tackling practice, what concerns him about University of Texas recruiting, and how Luke Kuechly changed the Carolina Panthers’ defense.

What did Jason Phillips say about NFL preseason tackling and Monday night games?

Jason Phillips said young NFL players need some live tackling before the regular season because drills cannot fully reproduce a game’s speed or contact. He also said Monday night games usually brought their own energy, though a poor start under the prime-time spotlight could leave players overthinking what had gone wrong.

Adjusting to Monday night football

Phillips recalled that prime-time games were easy to get excited for during his career. That excitement could work against a team, he said, if it struggled early or faced something it had not expected. He also remembered playing for the Ravens when Terrell Suggs had not taken a preseason snap before a Monday night game against the Pittsburgh Steelers.

Having played in Philadelphia, Phillips knew another kind of pressure: he described its fans as supportive when the team won and difficult to face when it lost.

Why live contact matters to young players

Phillips said an experienced team may know how to prepare its bodies for a season, while first-, second- and third-year players are still learning that process. He understood the need to keep players healthy, but argued that young players also need live moments in which they take opponents to the ground. Otherwise, their tackling angles or their response to a hard hit may differ sharply from practice. He remembered being struck less by fatigue in his first games than by how quickly everything happened.

What did Jason Phillips say about Texas football recruiting?

Jason Phillips said it bothers him when strong Texas high school players leave the state for college. In his view, easier recruiting and the money involved have given more programs access to players the University of Texas might once have kept, while alumni and booster influence add another challenge for its head coach.

Phillips contrasted the current recruiting landscape with the 1980s and early 1990s, when he said it was harder for programs to find players far from home. Schools willing to send recruiters into Texas now compete for the same large pool, he argued. That leaves him wondering why the Texas Longhorns are not in contention every year.

He also described managing the University of Texas’s influential supporters as a substantial part of the job. Phillips praised former coach Mack Brown’s ability to handle those demands while coaching, calling him a politician with a head coach’s instincts. His point was that winning games and keeping people around the program satisfied require different skills.

What did Jason Phillips say about his NFL coaches and Blue Bell?

Jason Phillips admired Ron Rivera’s ability to coach players without trying to be their friend, and John Harbaugh’s ability to assemble detailed, effective staffs. Phillips also remembered former teammate DeMeco Ryans as a leader whose example carried weight. On a lighter subject, he told Jake Silva he would choose vanilla Blue Bell ice cream.

Ron Rivera, John Harbaugh and DeMeco Ryans

Rivera knew when to push players and when to pull back because he had been through what they were experiencing, Phillips said. He described Harbaugh as more of a CEO-style coach who brought in strong assistants. The Ravens’ attention to special-teams technique was especially important to Phillips: he believes it helped him earn opportunities with other NFL teams.

Phillips said Ryans, whom he played alongside, rarely yelled. When Ryans did, teammates listened because he practiced what he asked of them. Phillips saw that example as a reason players responded to him.

Vanilla ice cream over Ben & Jerry’s

When Silva asked about Ben & Jerry’s, Phillips turned to a simpler preference: vanilla ice cream, probably Blue Bell. He connected the choice to Brenham, Texas, where Blue Bell is based and which he said was close to him.

What did Jason Phillips say about Baltimore Ravens culture and Ozzie Newsome?

Jason Phillips said the Baltimore Ravens were his favorite team because the locker room, front office and training room shared the same standards. He said Ozzie Newsome drafted him despite a knee injury and recognized that he would work early, stay late and embrace special teams rather than expect a starting job.

Ozzie Newsome’s draft call

Phillips said he did not expect a draft call after injuring his knee around the combine. Newsome called late in the fourth round and told him the Ravens would take him with the first pick in the fifth. When Phillips promised to show up early and stay late, Newsome replied, “yeah, we know, man, we know.”

Newsome warned Phillips that outside assessments might grade the pick poorly, Phillips recalled. What mattered to the general manager, he said, was a player’s willingness to stay out of trouble and fully commit to special-teams and scout-team assignments. Phillips viewed that conversation as an introduction to the standards he found throughout the organization.

Finding a role behind Ray Lewis

Phillips knew he was not going to beat out Ray Lewis. He learned Lewis’s position in case he was needed there, then worked to learn other linebacker assignments and whatever special-teams jobs the Ravens gave him. Phillips summed up the approach that stayed with him:

know your role, own your role, execute your role.

That preparation made him valuable enough to keep on a roster, he said. Phillips credited Baltimore’s detailed special-teams coaching with helping him remain in the NFL and make other teams.

What did Jason Phillips say about Carolina Panthers culture and Wawa?

Jason Phillips credited Luke Kuechly with bringing greater defensive buy-in to the Carolina Panthers, which Phillips believes helped build their path to the Super Bowl. He also sees value in former players such as Dan Morgan speaking directly to a team. Later, Phillips recalled an East Coast stop of a different kind: Wawa.

Luke Kuechly and defensive buy-in

Phillips thought he might get a chance to start in Carolina before Kuechly arrived. He nevertheless called Kuechly a phenomenal player and person, and said teammates responded to his humility and work ethic. In Phillips’s view, Kuechly raised the defensive standard and helped more players commit to it.

Phillips suggested Morgan could have a similar influence in his role with Carolina by pulling a player aside and making clear why his commitment matters to teammates. A former player can deliver that message in a way others cannot, Phillips said, because players may be more willing to hear and respect it.

Buying Wawa rice pudding by the case

Phillips told Silva that Wawa was not quite like Buc-ee’s, but its rice pudding won him over. He had not been a rice-pudding fan before trying it there; afterward, he said, he bought cases.

Why did Jason Phillips pick Cleveland over the Pittsburgh Steelers?

Jason Phillips picked Cleveland over Pittsburgh because he liked the way its young defense was beginning to work together. He said a group of hardworking young players can build trust, feed off one another’s plays and become as excited for a teammate’s success as for their own.

From his Ravens days, Phillips remembered Baltimore–Pittsburgh games as exceptionally physical. He did not think Cleveland had reached that level of rivalry, but he saw signs of a defense learning what it could do collectively. Phillips compared that process to the way the Legion of Boom’s players began feeding off each other’s playmaking.

He added that a strong running game helps a quarterback. His pick, though, rested chiefly on the defensive buy-in he believed was developing in Cleveland.

Who is Jason Phillips?

Jason Phillips went from an overlooked two-star recruit to an All-American at Texas Christian University, a five-year NFL linebacker and a TCU Hall of Famer. He is the author of Two Star Starter and the founder of Be M.A.D.E., short for My Attitude Determines Everything.

Phillips uses his career to argue that effort and attitude can be developed even when a player lacks the size, speed or natural talent of competitors. He calls those habits “Zero Talent Characteristics” and describes the ability built through them as “talentless talent.”

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Questions from the interview

Did Ozzie Newsome draft Jason Phillips after a knee injury?

Yes. Phillips said Newsome called after his knee injury around the combine and told him the Baltimore Ravens would take him with the first pick in the fifth round.

How did special teams help Jason Phillips stay in the NFL?

Phillips said the Ravens’ detailed special-teams coaching taught him techniques that helped him earn opportunities with other teams. He embraced those assignments to make himself valuable on a roster.

Why does Jason Phillips want young players to tackle in practice?

Phillips said young players need some live tackling to adjust to game speed, contact and tackling angles, while still taking care to protect players’ health.

What ice cream does Jason Phillips prefer?

Phillips told Jake Silva he prefers vanilla ice cream, probably Blue Bell, over the Ben & Jerry’s flavors Silva mentioned.

What did Jason Phillips buy at Wawa?

Phillips said he tried Wawa’s rice pudding despite not previously liking rice pudding, then bought it by the case.

Did Jason Phillips choose Cleveland or Pittsburgh?

Phillips picked Cleveland over Pittsburgh, citing the way its young defense was beginning to work together.

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