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Key takeaways

  • Travis Smith said Brittany Sims deserved to beat Chermelle Patricia and predicts a Sims knockout in their ordered rematch.
  • Smith praised Alycia Baumgardner’s boxing but said she treated him disrespectfully at a New York press conference.
  • Smith called Claressa Shields the face of women’s boxing and wants Tamm Thibeault to gain experience before facing her.
  • Smith said Jake Paul should fight cruiserweight boxers if he wants to pursue a world championship.
  • Smith said Most Valuable Promotions gave media access to its early official weigh-in and seats near ringside.

In the FIGHT TALK WITH YOUR BOY THE WHATS NEXT KID RYAN FROM THE 6IX interview, Travis Smith said Brittany Sims deserved to beat Chermelle Patricia on the Most Valuable Promotions card, described a difficult encounter with Alycia Baumgardner and called Claressa Shields the face of women’s boxing. He also explained why he thinks Jake Paul should fight established cruiserweight boxers if he wants a world title.

What did FIGHT TALK WITH YOUR BOY THE WHATS NEXT KID say about Brittany Sims vs Chermelle Patricia?

Travis Smith thought Brittany Sims deserved the decision against Chermelle Patricia and predicts Sims will stop her in their rematch. He said the fight was competitive but objected strongly to one judge’s wide scorecard, arguing that Sims’ greater professional experience and work late in the fight were not adequately recognized.

Smith watched nearly every fight on the Most Valuable Promotions card rather than spending the night moving between interviews. Sims against Patricia stood out: he had posted a prediction before the bout and said Patricia blocked him on Instagram the day before they fought.

Although RYAN FROM THE 6IX described the contest as close, Smith believed Sims should have won. He criticized a scorecard he described as 100–90 and said Patricia was sometimes slapping with her punches. He also disputed complaints about headbutts, saying Patricia had leaned forward with her head.

Smith pointed to Sims’ 10–3 experience entering the matchup and said Patricia still needed more professional rounds despite her amateur background. He said the World Boxing Association had ordered an immediate rematch while leaving the draw in place. His prediction for that second meeting is a Sims knockout because, in his view, she has learned Patricia’s timing.

What did FIGHT TALK WITH YOUR BOY THE WHATS NEXT KID say about Alycia Baumgardner?

Smith praised Alycia Baumgardner’s ability in the ring but said his encounters with her outside it have been inconsistent. He described her as friendly on some occasions and disrespectful on others, including an exchange at a New York post-fight press conference where he said her response to his question embarrassed him.

The New York press conference

After Baumgardner’s move to a second division title came up, Smith said he had interviewed Caroline Dubois and Stephanie Han and had met Baumgardner several times. He recalled that she was pleasant to him at the weigh-in for a previous New York fight, then, in his account, treated him poorly when he asked a question after the bout.

Smith also said he had seen Baumgardner be kind to a child seeking a photo. His criticism was not that she refuses every fan interaction, but that he finds her manner unpredictable. Those are Smith’s assessments of his encounters, not a claim about how she treats everyone.

What did FIGHT TALK WITH YOUR BOY THE WHATS NEXT KID say about Most Valuable Promotions boxing card access?

Smith said Most Valuable Promotions gave him strong media access, including seats about two rows behind ringside and entry to an early official weigh-in. That access let him watch most of the card closely. He also discussed Sky Nicolson’s performance and said he had not watched enough of the Ramla Ali–Makayla Kreps co-main event to score it himself.

Media access and Sky Nicolson’s fight

Smith contrasted the access with promotions that, in his experience, keep media out of morning weigh-ins. He said Most Valuable Promotions admitted reporters and gave them room to conduct interviews. From his seat, he heard people nearby cheering Nicolson on and believed he was sitting close to her family and team.

In the ring, Nicolson did what Smith expected: she controlled her fight with jabs, hooks and movement against Mio. He said he knew Mio and some of her coaches in New York, but expected Nicolson to dominate. Separately, he described a request for a fight-week interview that Nicolson declined; while he understood she was cutting weight, he disliked the manner of the refusal.

Ramla Ali and Makayla Kreps

The Ali–Kreps co-main event was the one fight Smith largely missed. He said others had urged him to address the result and told him Kreps had landed more punches, while Ali had landed harder, cleaner shots. Rather than give his own verdict without watching it properly, he said he needed to rewatch the fight. He also said a request for a rematch had been made and thought another meeting was likely.

What did FIGHT TALK WITH YOUR BOY THE WHATS NEXT KID say about Jake Paul and the card’s officiating?

Smith said Jake Paul should face actual cruiserweight boxers if he intends to pursue a world championship, rather than rely on bouts with MMA fighters. He also criticized the card’s officiating, saying confusing bell signals prompted a referee to interrupt a moment when Baumgardner appeared close to stopping Alif Turhan.

Jake Paul’s route toward a title

Smith described Paul as personable when they met, but questioned the gap between Paul’s stated championship ambition and his choice of opponents. In Smith’s view, Paul should compete at cruiserweight and work through boxers in that division. He also said Paul should not have taken on Anthony Joshua, whom he described as a much bigger heavyweight.

The bells during Baumgardner vs Alif Turhan

Returning to the card, Smith said two bell sounds caused confusion as Baumgardner pressed Turhan. He did not blame the referee for reacting to what sounded like an ending signal, but argued the interruption may have denied Baumgardner a chance to finish the fight. That is his assessment of the moment, not a knockout that was recorded.

Starting a boxing interview podcast

Paul’s fight with Mike Tyson also led Smith to start his podcast. His first video was a prediction posted the day before that fight; he said his early work improved as he gained practice. Gerry Cooney was his first interview, and he later interviewed Eddie Hearn, Nakisa, Tyson and other boxing figures. After the MVP card, he also noted Albino’s knockout and said the promotion signed her immediately afterward.

What did FIGHT TALK WITH YOUR BOY THE WHATS NEXT KID say about Amanda Serrano’s next fight?

Smith expects Amanda Serrano to win the fight discussed as her last, but would not confidently predict a knockout. He said he was unimpressed by footage of her opponent shadowboxing and thought Serrano would train hard, yet still treated a stoppage as uncertain rather than inevitable.

Smith had previously interviewed Serrano and described that interaction as mixed: he thought she could have been friendlier, but did not characterize her as consistently unpleasant. He kept that personal impression separate from his prediction in the ring.

When asked whether Serrano might secure another knockout and pass Christy Martin, Smith declined to commit. He gave the knockout possibility an even chance while making clear that he favored Serrano to win.

What did FIGHT TALK WITH YOUR BOY THE WHATS NEXT KID say about Claressa Shields and Tamm Thibeault?

Smith called Claressa Shields the face of women’s boxing and picked her to beat Chantelle Cameron if they fight. He also wants Tamm Thibeault to get more professional experience and remain active before facing Shields, a matchup he considers appealing but not one Thibeault should rush into.

Smith put his central position plainly:

She's the face of women's boxing hands down.

He argued that even Shields’ critics help increase attention on her by continuing to discuss her. He placed her ahead of Baumgardner and Caroline Dubois in public profile, while RYAN FROM THE 6IX pointed to the length of Shields’ accomplishments.

Chantelle Cameron and Mikaela Mayer

Smith favored Shields over Cameron but said their fight should be made. He also raised the possibility of a Cameron–Mikaela Mayer rematch after their close bout. RYAN FROM THE 6IX said Cameron’s pursuit of Shields might take precedence; Smith’s own position was that he would like to see the Mayer rematch as well.

Tamm Thibeault’s path to Shields

Smith said Thibeault had impressed him against Desley Robinson after a layoff, but saw a substantial step between that fight and Shields. He would prefer Thibeault to face more professional opponents, encounter different styles and fight regularly before attempting it. His hope was to see her compete roughly every four months while building toward a potential Shields bout.

Who is FIGHT TALK WITH YOUR BOY THE WHATS NEXT KID?

FIGHT TALK WITH YOUR BOY THE WHATS NEXT KID is a podcast interviewing combat sport fighters. Its host invites interview bookings through MILLIONS and can be contacted on Instagram at thewhatsnextkid.

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Questions from the interview

Was a Brittany Sims vs Chermelle Patricia rematch ordered?

Travis Smith said the World Boxing Association ordered an immediate rematch and that the draw would stand. He predicts Sims will win the rematch by knockout.

Did Travis Smith score Ramla Ali vs Makayla Kreps?

No. Travis Smith said Ali vs Kreps was the one fight on the card he largely missed, and he wanted to rewatch it before giving his own assessment.

Could Alycia Baumgardner have stopped Alif Turhan?

Travis Smith believes confusing bell signals led a referee to interrupt Baumgardner while she was close to a stoppage. He said the interruption may have cost her a chance at a knockout.

Why did Travis Smith start his podcast?

Travis Smith said he started by posting a prediction for Jake Paul vs Mike Tyson the day before their fight. Gerry Cooney was his first interview.

Does Travis Smith expect Amanda Serrano to win her next fight?

Travis Smith expects Amanda Serrano to win the fight discussed as her last, but said he was uncertain whether she would get a knockout.

Should Tamm Thibeault fight Claressa Shields next?

Travis Smith wants Tamm Thibeault to gain more professional experience and stay active before fighting Claressa Shields. He considers it an attractive matchup but sees a significant step up from her fight with Desley Robinson.

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