
Jacob Lee FIGHT TALK WITH YOUR BOY THE WHATS NEXT KID interview
Key takeaways
- Jacob Lee said his November 14 First Rule MMA bout would be his MMA debut.
- Lee studied his opponent’s wrestling matches and predicted that his opponent would change plans once they fought.
- Lee said he weighed about 173 pounds shortly before the fight and expected to make 170 pounds easily.
- Lee said an amateur boxing bout in Cincinnati fell through while Buster Douglas was preparing to corner him.
- Lee believes Amanda Serrano deserved to win her second fight with Katie Taylor.
Jacob Lee FIGHT TALK WITH YOUR BOY THE WHATS NEXT KID interview focused on Lee’s November 14 First Rule MMA debut, his plan for a wrestling-based opponent and the boxing bouts that fell through before he turned to MMA. Lee also discussed learning from Buster Douglas, using his jab and why he believes Amanda Serrano beat Katie Taylor in their second fight.
What did Jacob Lee say about his First Rule MMA debut and wrestling opponent?
Jacob Lee said the November 14 First Rule MMA bout would be his first MMA fight. After watching his opponent’s wrestling matches, Lee praised his footwork but predicted that his plan would change once they fought. Lee believes he can defend a takedown attempt he sees coming and escape if he is taken down.
Studying the opponent’s wrestling matches
Lee had access to a couple of his opponent’s wrestling matches. He said the opponent has good footwork, but cautioned that wrestling in an MMA fight is different. He had not seen enough to judge the opponent’s striking. His own confidence, he said, comes partly from striking with skilled training partners every day.
Lee also watched his opponent’s interview for clues about his approach. He expects the opponent to begin by feeling him out, then fall back on wrestling when the fight changes. That is Lee’s prediction, not a game plan he claimed to know in full.
If the fight goes to the mat
Lee acknowledged that his opponent could take him down. He expects a visible attempt to end in a clinch rather than a completed takedown, and said the wrestling footage did not convince him that his opponent could control him on the ground. Both men were preparing for their first MMA fight; Lee said his opponent had more wrestling matches behind him.
What did Jacob Lee say about his boxing background and Buster Douglas?
Jacob Lee boxed from middle school through high school and began wrestling in high school. He said he wanted to box long before this MMA opportunity, but several prospective amateur bouts fell through. At one event in Cincinnati, Buster Douglas was set to corner him before Lee learned that his opponent had not shown up.
Boxing in Ohio
Lee said he spent time boxing with strong fighters in Ohio. He credited Tono, Antonio and Nemo with helping him improve, describing the value of going to the gym and facing people who could challenge him. He said those sessions gave him experience that matters even though he had no MMA fights going into November 14.
The canceled bout in Cincinnati
Getting into boxing took persistence at home: Lee said his mother initially would not let him box, and he took a year away from sports while trying to persuade her. Later, after other amateur fights had fallen through, he traveled to Cincinnati for a bout with Douglas in his corner. Lee was getting his hands wrapped and warming up when he was told his opponent had not arrived.
That experience shaped his reaction to his First Rule MMA opponent. Lee said he respected him for staying in the bout, knowing how easily an amateur fight can disappear before the scheduled date.
How was Jacob Lee preparing for his November 14 First Rule MMA fight?
Jacob Lee said he weighed about 173 pounds shortly before the November 14 fight and expected to make 170 without difficulty. He had already been eating more healthfully before the bout was announced. Mentally, he described himself as excited and eager to show his skills to the family, friends and former wrestling teammates supporting him.
Lee estimated that he weighed about 180 pounds when the fight was announced and said he walked around at roughly 176 when hydrated. He did not describe the remaining weight as a difficult cut. His focus was on reaching the date ready to fight after earlier experiences with bouts falling through.
He also recognized that preparation cannot account for everything an opponent might do. Lee said fights bring surprises even when a fighter has studied the person across from him. Still, he felt his wrestling and striking sessions had exposed him to the kinds of challenges he expected to face.
Support from high school remained important to him. Lee said former wrestling teammates planned to come out, and he wanted to make his friends and family proud rather than treat the debut only as a chance to display his technique.
What did Jacob Lee say about playing video games?
Jacob Lee said he grew up playing video games and still plays, though he had not spent as much time on them recently. When he did get on a game, he said he usually used his PlayStation. He also said he did not get a PC until he was about 18.
Gaming came up as part of Lee’s life outside training, not as an explanation for how he fights. He described it as something he had enjoyed since childhood and continued to return to when he had time.
What did Jacob Lee say about Amanda Serrano, Katie Taylor and women’s boxing?
Jacob Lee said Amanda Serrano deserved to win her second fight with Katie Taylor. He also praised women’s boxing and asked about Alicia Baumgardner’s next opponent. When the discussion turned to Caroline Dubois and Stephanie Han, Lee cautioned against looking past the fighter directly in front of you, while making clear he did not know much about that matchup.
Serrano and Taylor’s second fight
Lee recalled watching Serrano and Taylor fight a second time on the Mike Tyson card. He called the decision a robbery and said he was so upset afterward that he did not want to watch Tyson fight. That was Lee’s view of the result; he also spoke enthusiastically about both Serrano–Taylor fights as examples of how compelling women’s boxing can be.
Baumgardner and the danger of looking ahead
Lee asked who Baumgardner might fight next but said he had not watched her most recent performance. After hearing about Dubois and Han, he suggested confidence could explain why a boxer might discuss a future opponent. He nevertheless called it a mistake to overlook the person one must fight first.
Lee also distinguished how he watches men’s and women’s boxing. In his view, women’s bouts often have a more active pace, making clean punches and damage especially noticeable. He presented that as an observation, not a rule for scoring either sport.
How does Jacob Lee plan to use his jab in MMA?
Jacob Lee wants to make his jab a dependable part of his MMA offense. He said it can set up combinations, takedowns and kicks, and argued that fighters do not use it enough. He cited GSP as an example of an MMA fighter who used the jab well and also mentioned Sean Strickland.
For Lee, the jab is more than a first punch before a combination. It can help establish distance and create different openings, including entries for attacks that are not punches. He said that range of uses is why he wants it in his toolbox for MMA.
He described a recent session with a 14-year-old at his gym who understood distance and countered him repeatedly. Lee felt he had entered without making enough use of his jab or feints. The experience reinforced his point: moving forward without setting up an attack gives a sharp opponent a chance to read and counter it.
Why does Jacob Lee train with more experienced fighters?
Jacob Lee said working with people who are better or more experienced has been central to his development. He described learning through boxing and wrestling sessions, sparring, and even childhood basketball games against older players. In his view, testing himself against stronger opposition teaches him things he cannot gain by staying comfortable.
Lee said much of his technique developed through his own observation and work. Buster Douglas helped him at the boxing gym, but was not always available to hold mitts, so Lee also worked with other trainers and learned by sparring people whose skills he admired.
He applies the same idea when a training partner controls distance or sets up counters well. By watching closely and then working with that person, Lee said he can recognize what makes the approach effective and add to his own understanding.
Lee summed up the advice he would give younger athletes in one line:
Always find the best person in the room because you're only gonna get as good as them
He also recalled playing basketball against older, taller men when he was younger. The point, he said, was not to avoid difficult matchups but to use them as a way to improve.
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Questions from the interview
Had Jacob Lee fought in MMA before November 14?
No. Jacob Lee said the November 14 First Rule MMA bout would be his first MMA fight.
Did Jacob Lee think his opponent could hold him down?
Lee acknowledged that his opponent could take him down, but said the wrestling footage he watched did not convince him that his opponent could control him on the ground.
How much did Jacob Lee weigh before the fight?
Jacob Lee said he weighed about 173 pounds shortly before the fight and expected to make the 170-pound limit easily.
Was Buster Douglas ever in Jacob Lee’s corner?
Lee said Buster Douglas accompanied him to an amateur boxing event in Cincinnati to corner him, but the bout did not take place because his opponent did not show up.
What did Jacob Lee think of the second Amanda Serrano–Katie Taylor fight?
Jacob Lee said he believed Amanda Serrano deserved to win her second fight with Katie Taylor. He described his reaction to the decision as one of frustration.
Does Jacob Lee play video games?
Yes. Lee said he grew up playing video games, usually played on PlayStation when he got on recently, and got a PC when he was about 18.
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